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I was recently asked about the
promising autism research drug L1-79 and the idea of using a similar drug
called Demser as an immediately accessible alternative.
It is an interesting question, but I
do wonder if that reader had checked out how much Demser costs. Even I was
shocked, $100,000 to $500,000 per year in the US.
Demser is an old generic drug but with
a tiny market, so it never became cheap. It was developed to treat a rare tumor
of the adrenal glands that leads to the production of excess catecholamines.
You can make the case that L1-79 is
just a low-dose (about 1/10th) re-packaged version of Demser, to be
sufficiently different to be patentable as a new drug.
L1-79 has shown promise in a very
small trial to improve social responsiveness in adolescents with autism, but no
intellectual disability. This is great news, but realistically how much is that
worth?
Clever drugs are great, but they have
to be affordable.
L1-79 Clinical
Trial
https://live-yamopharma.pantheonsite.io/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/CNS-Conference-Poster.pdf
The clinical trial suggests that reducing catecholamine “noise” (dopamine + noradrenaline) can improve social engagement in some people with autism.
Key results:
- Significant improvement in socialization
- Vineland-3 Socialization score increased
8 points (clinically meaningful)
- Improvements also seen in:
- Play & leisure
- Clinician (CGI-S) and caregiver ratings
- Well tolerated
- No serious adverse events
- No withdrawals due to side effects
The crossover phase failed due to:
- Carryover effect → benefits persisted after stopping
- Sequence effect → order of treatment influenced results
Only the first 12-week period was
usable
The drug may create a temporary window for improved engagement, with some effects persisting after
discontinuation. This is actually a good thing.
What L1-79
actually is
L1-79 is described as a racemic
formulation of alpha-methyl-para-tyrosine (AMPT)
This is the same core compound used in
Demser.
Alpha-methyl-para-tyrosine (AMPT) is a molecule with two mirror-image forms:
• R-enantiomer
• S-enantiomer
Consider it like a pair of gloves, one is right-handed and the other is left-handed.
Both L1-79 and Demser are essentially:
- 50% R-AMPT + 50% S-AMPT
- Same mechanism:
- inhibition of tyrosine hydroxylase
- ↓ dopamine
- ↓ noradrenaline
So are L1-79 and
Demser identical?
Chemically, yes (or extremely close).
The pharmokinetics may have been
improved to give a more stable effect.
The target
phenotype for L1-79
Best described as:
“Too dysregulated to engage socially
effectively”
Features:
- Over-aroused / “wired”
- Inconsistent engagement
- Easily overwhelmed
- Better in calm environments
Not lack of social interest — but loss
of access
This autism treatment aims to reduce
background neurochemical noise to improve signal-to-noise ratio.
Why not just use
Demser?
This was the exact question posed to
me. It is a great question, until you see the crazy price of Demser.
Are there any
affordable alternatives today?
No direct
equivalent
There is no cheap drug that safely and precisely reduces catecholamine synthesis for CNS use.
Partial proxies
(available today)
1. Guanfacine
- ↓ noradrenergic tone
- improves regulation
- stronger, more sedating
- reduces adrenergic stress response
Does reducing
catecholamine-driven dysregulation improve social engagement?
- more sustained interaction
- better back-and-forth
- increased shared attention
Negative signs:
- flat affect
- reduced motivation
Clonidine and guanfacine:
- have been trialed in autism
- improve:
- hyperactivity
- irritability
but do not consistently improve
socialization.
Propranol
Propranolol helps when stress blocks
performance.
It is good for social anxiety.
Propranolol can improve certain
aspects of social and cognitive performance — especially under stress — but
does not broadly change core autism symptoms.
| Feature | Propranolol | Guanfacine | Clonidine | L1-79 | Demser (metyrosine) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mechanism level | Downstream | Downstream | Downstream | Upstream | Upstream |
| Main effect | ↓ stress response | ↓ noradrenergic noise (PFC) | ↓ global noradrenergic tone | ↓ dopamine + noradrenaline (controlled) | ↓ dopamine + noradrenaline (strong) |
| Dopamine effect | Minimal | Minimal | Minimal | Reduced | Reduced (more strongly) |
| Noradrenaline effect | ↓ peripheral + some CNS | ↓ targeted | ↓ broader | ↓ global, moderate | ↓ global, strong |
| Best for | Anxiety / performance stress | Regulation, attention | Hyperarousal, sleep | “Noisy” dysregulated system | Extreme catecholamine excess |
| Effect on socialization | Situational | Indirect | Indirect | Direct (trial signal) | Not studied |
| Consistency | Context-dependent | Moderate | Moderate | More sustained | Variable |
| Sedation risk | Low–moderate | Low | Moderate–high | Low–moderate | High if overdosed |
| Precision | Medium | Good | Lower | High (goal) | |
| ASD use | Sometimes | Common | Common | Experimental | Not used |
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A broader
perspective: not one direction, but a spectrum
One important takeaway from L1-79 is that it highlights a direction of treatment, not a universal solution. Catecholamine function (dopamine and noradrenaline) operates along a spectrum. Some individuals have excess or unstable signaling (too much noise), others have insufficient drive (too little signal), and many show poor regulation between the two states.
This pattern is seen across multiple
conditions:
Attention Deficit
Hyperactivity Disorder
·
often low
dopamine / noradrenaline tone
·
stimulants
increase them
Depression
·
can involve low
catecholamine activity, classic antidepressants will not work
· need the opposite of L1-79 which could be Bupropion (1,000 times cheaper than Demser)
Anxiety disorders
·
often high
noradrenergic tone
Autism Spectrum
Disorder
·
likely
heterogeneous
o
some hyper (too much)
o
some hypo (too little)
o
many dysregulated
The key insight is that the goal is not simply “increase” or “decrease,” but restore optimal regulation — the point at which signal is strong enough to support engagement, but not so strong that it creates noise and instability.
This has important implications. If
catecholamine dysregulation is common and cuts across multiple conditions, then
treatments targeting this system are likely to have broad relevance, not niche
application. In that context, affordability becomes critical. A highly priced,
specialist drug risks restricting access to a mechanism that may benefit a
large population.
The challenge is not
discovering the mechanism — it is making it usable, scalable, and affordable in
everyday clinical practice.
As with many aspects of autism, or indeed depression, anxiety, ADHD etc, all you are doing is fine-tuning an imbalanced system. Consider it like finding a happier homeostasis.
Conclusion
The effective dosage of L1-79 was not
found to be weight based. People in the trial were aged 12 to 21 years old. The
effective dose was 300-600mg split into 2 doses day.
L1-79 reduces synthesis of:
- dopamine
- norepinephrine
- These are not just "bad when
high" they are essential for function
Think of it as a narrow window
- Too high (overactive system):
- agitation
- irritability
- poor regulation
- Optimal zone:
- calmer
- more focused
- better engagement
- Too low (over-suppressed):
- low motivation
- emotional flattening
- fatigue / low energy
L1-79 pushes you downward on this
curve, so overshooting is very possible
Even though trials used up to 600 mg/day. Some people likely responded best at lower doses (300–400 mg/day). Others may have improved initially but then lost drive or engagement at higher doses.
The standard dosage of Demser/Metyrosine for pheochromocytoma is 1,500–4,000 mg/day.
If someone was in the phase 2 trial
and responded really well to L1-79 at 250mg twice a day, you could understand
their interest to just switch to 250mg twice a day of Demser.
That would cost €60–€150 per day in
Europe and very much more in the US.
I did ask AI to guess the price of
L1-179, if it gets approved.
Likely
pricing strategy for L1-79
Even
though it uses lower doses, expect:
·
US price:
👉
~$30,000–$80,000 per year
(very typical for autism CNS drugs)
·
Europe:
👉
€10,000–€30,000 per year (after negotiation)
The original Demser drug was approved by
the FDA in 1979.
Demser is cheap to produce, so if L1-79
gets approved in the US for autism maybe the Chinese will trial low-dose Demser. If successful, that would create a large market and the price should fall. There is no patent to worry about.
Drug producers do see a market in the US for autism drugs costing $50,000 a year. Unfortunately, many people with disabling autism will require multiple drugs, targeting different aspects of their condition. It is not a case of pay $50,000 and you are "done."
The idea is that if insurance in the US is currently paying $100,000 to $200,000 a year for therapy for a child with level 3 autism, they can afford $50,000 for our pills.
In Europe the spending on therapies outside of school is dramatically less, more like up to €10,000 a year. European countries frequently reject new drugs because they are too expensive, or they just severely restrict access to keep costs down.
The good news is that there is no shortage today of affordable pharmaceutical interventions that can improve troubling aspects of many sub-types of autism. You likely will need to stack them together in a personalized polytherapy. Don't expect any single drug to be a silver bullet, no matter how expensive it might be.




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