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Wednesday 6 November 2019

Metformin to raise Cognition in Fragile X and some other Autisms?




I started to write this post a long time ago, when Agnieszka first highlighted an interview with Dr Hagerman from UC Davis.  Hagerman is experimenting in using Metformin to treat Fragile-X.

Having again be reminded about Metformin, I realized that I never finished my post on this subject. With some extras about autophagy and a nice graphic courtesy of Ling’s excellent paper, here it is. 

Metformin has already been covered in 5 previous posts.


One interesting point is that the researchers at UC Davis are using the measurement of IQ as one of the outcome measures in their trial of Metformin.  I have been suggesting the French Bumetanide researchers do this for a long time.

It is my opinion that simple medical interventions can have a profound impact on the IQ of some people with severe autism. I mean raising IQ not by 5-10 points as at UC Davis, but by 20-50 points.  IQ can be measured using standardized tools and is far less subjective than any autism rating scale.

The big-time potential IQ enhancers we have seen in this blog include: -

·        Bumetanide/Azosemide
·        Statins (Atorvastatin, Lovastatin, Simvastatin, but they are not equivalent and the effect has nothing to do with lowering cholesterol)
·        Micro-dose Clonazepam
·        Clemastine
·        It seems DMF, in n=2 trial

The good news is that these drugs are all off-patent cheap generics (except DMF), as is metformin.  No need for drugs costing $50,000 a year.

For those that do not know, metformin is the first line medication for type-2 diabetes. It was introduced as a medication in France in 1957 and the United States in 1995.  In many countries Metformin is extremely cheap, with 30 x 500 mg tablets costing about $2 or Eur 2. In the US it costs about $10 for generic, so not expensive. 

There are sound reasons why Metformin could increase IQ in someone with autism or Fragile-X. In the case of idiopathic autism is there a likely biomarker to identify a likely responder? One has not yet been identified.

Clearly Metformin will not work for all people with autism and MR/ID, but even if it only works for 10% that would be great.

Are all parents going to notice an increase in IQ of 5-10 points?  You might think so, but I doubt it.  I would hope therapists, teachers and assistants would notice.

I think basic mental maths is the best way to notice improved cognitive function in people with IQ less than 70.  You can easily establish a baseline and then you can notice/measure improvements.

Improved cognitive function does not just help with maths, it helps with learning basic skills like tying shoe laces, brushing teeth and later shaving.  This does also involve many other types of skill.





In the study, researchers from the UC Davis Medical Investigation of Neurodevelopmental Disorders Institute in California tested the long-term effects of metformin, delivered at 1,000 milligrams (mg) twice a day, for one year in two male patients, 25 and 30 years old. Genetic analysis confirmed that both patients had mutations in the FMR1 gene, confirming their fragile X syndrome diagnoses.

The younger patient had autism and was also diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder. First prescribed metformin at 22, he is currently taking 500 mg of metformin twice a day and 10 mg per day of simvastatin — used to lower the level of cholesterol in the blood.
The second patient was also diagnosed with anxiety and exhibited socially nervous behaviors, including panic attacks. He had severe limitations in language use, and communicated in short sentences and by mumbling. He had been on an extended-release formulation of metformin, taking 1,000 mg once a day for one year.

Both patients showed significant cognitive and behavioral improvements. After one year of treatment with metformin, test results revealed an increase in the patients’ IQ scores, from 53 to 57 in the younger patient and from 50 to 58 in the second patient.

Verbal and nonverbal IQ — the ability to analyze information and solve problems using visual or hands-on reasoning — were also improved in both patients. Non-verbal IQ increased from 50 to 52 in the younger patient and from 47 to 51 in the other. Verbal IQ went from 61 to 66 in the first patient, and from 58 to 68 in the second.

                                                              

Researcher Randi Hagerman is a big proponent of metformin — a diabetes drug that helps people manage their weight. In fact, Hagerman takes the drug herself as a preventive measure against cancer.
Metformin has also unexpectedly shown promise for improving cognition in people with fragile X syndrome, a leading genetic cause of autism characterized by severe intellectual disability.

A study published in 2017 linked impaired insulin signalling in the brain to cognitive and social deficits in a fruit fly model of fragile X, and the flies improved on metformin. A second paper that year showed that metformin reverses abnormalities in a mouse model of the syndrome, including the number of branches the mice’s neurons form. It also improved seizures and hyperactivity in the mice — issues we also see in people with fragile X.
I began prescribing metformin to people with fragile X syndrome to help curb overeating. Many of the people I treat are overweight because of this habit — it’s one of the symptoms of a subtype of fragile X called the Prader-Willi phenotype, not to be confused with Prader-Willi syndrome.
I was surprised when the families of these individuals told me they could talk better and carry out conversations, where they couldn’t before. That really gave us impetus to conduct a controlled clinical trial.
It’s not a cure-all, but we do see some positive changes. It doesn’t resolve intellectual disability, but we have seen IQ improvements of up to 10 points in two boys who have been treated with metformin. We are very excited about that.

Individuals on metformin tend to start eating less, and often lose weight as a result. I could kick myself, because metformin has been approved to treat obesity for many years, but I never thought to use it in fragile X syndrome. Oftentimes children with fragile X syndrome have so many problems that you aren’t thinking about obesity as the top priority.
We’ve also seen a gradual effect on language, which we can detect after two to three months. Sometimes there are improvements in other behaviors too; I’ve seen mood-stabilizing effects. Many people with fragile X syndrome have issues with aggression, and it’s possible these could be moderated with metformin too. 

Individuals with fragile X syndrome (FXS) have both behavioral and medical comorbidities and the latter include obesity in approximately 30% and the Prader‐Willi Phenotype (PWP) characterized by severe hyperphagia and morbid obesity in less than 10%. Metformin is a drug used in individuals with type 2 diabetes, obesity or impaired glucose tolerance and it has a strong safety profile in children and adults. Recently published studies in the Drosophila model and the knock out mouse model of FXS treated with metformin demonstrate the rescue of multiple phenotypes of FXS.

Materials and Methods

We present 7 cases of individuals with FXS who have been treated with metformin clinically. One case with type 2 diabetes, 3 cases with the PWP, 2 adults with obesity and/or behavioral problems and, a young child with FXS. These individuals were clinically treated with metformin and monitored for behavioral changes with the Aberrant Behavior Checklist and metabolic changes with a fasting glucose and HgbA1c.

Results

We found consistent improvements in irritability, social responsiveness, hyperactivity, and social avoidance, in addition to comments from the family regarding improvements in language and conversational skills. No significant side‐effects were noted and most patients with obesity lost weight.

Conclusion

We recommend a controlled trial of metformin in those with FXS. Metformin appears to be an effective treatment of obesity including those with the PWP in FXS. Our study suggests that metformin may also be a targeted treatment for improving behavior and language in children and adults with FXS.

Recruiting: Clinical Trial of Metformin for Fragile X Syndrome


While a growing number of families are trying metformin and reporting mixed results, metformin has not yet been systematically studied in patients with Fragile X syndrome. This open-label trial is designed to better understand the safety and efficacy of this medicine on behavior and cognition, and to find the best dosages for children and adults.

20 children and adults with Fragile X syndrome will take metformin 250mg twice a day for the first week, followed by metformin 500mg twice a day for the next 8 weeks.
The study will measure changes in the total score on the Aberrant Behavior Checklist-Community (ABC-C) after 9 weeks of metformin treatment. The ABC-C is a 58-item behavior scale which is filled out by a caregiver. In addition, Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) will be used to look for changes in cortical excitability and Electroencephalography (EEG) will assess levels of synaptic plasticity.
Participants in this study must be Canadian residents and be able to travel to the University of Sherbrooke in Quebec, Canada, for several visits. If you are interested in metformin but this trial is not convenient, there are two alternatives. FRAXA is funding a new trial of metformin in New Jersey, and Dr. Randi Hagerman is currently recruiting for metformin trial at the University of California at Davis MIND Institute.



Metformin has emerged as a candidate drug for the targeted treatment of FXS based on animal studies showing rescue of multiple phenotypes in the FXS model. Metformin may contribute to normalizing signalling pathways in FXS in the central nervous system, which may include activities of mTOR and PI3K, both of which have shown to be pathogenically overactive in FXS. In addition, metformin inhibits phosphodiesterase, which would lead to correction of cAMP levels, and MMP9 production, which is also elevated in FXS. Looking at the potential signalling pathways, metformin appears to be a good candidate for targeting several of the intracellular functions in neurons disrupted in FXS and, therefore, has potential to rescue several types of symptoms in individuals with FXS. The researchers have utilized metformin in the clinical treatment of over 20 individuals with FXS between the ages of 4 and 58 years and have found the medication to be well tolerated and to provide benefits not only in lowering weight gain and normalizing appetite but also in language and behavior. In this controlled trial, the researchers hope to further assess metformin's safety and benefits in the areas of language and cognition, eating and weight loss, and overall behavior.


mTOR and P13K

Hagerman highlights Metformin’s effects on mTOR and P13K pathways.

This is a highly complex subject and the graphic below from an early post shows how interconnected everything is.  If mTOR is not working correctly you can expect many things not to work as nature intended.

Numerous things can cause an imbalance in mTOR and so there are numerous ways to re-balance it.

Not surprisingly much of this pathway plays a role in many types of cancer.

Hagerman herself is taking Metformin to reduce her chances of developing cancer. I think that is a good choice, particularly if you are overweight.  My anticancer choice, not being overweight, is Atorvastatin which targets inhibition of PI3K signalling through Akt and increases PTEN.

Hagerman is 70 years old and I think many cancers actual initiate years before they are large enough to get noticed and to be effective any preventative therapy needs to be started before that initiation has occurred. Hopefully she started her Metformin long ago. 

Given that 50% of people are likely to develop one cancer or another, I am with Dr Hagerman on the value of prevention, rather than treatment/cure.







The Wrong Statin for Fragile-X?

In the first article highlighted in this post, there is a case history of a man with FX being treated by a Statin, it looks to me that he has the wrong prescription (Simvastatin). Perhaps Dr Hagerman should read this old post from this blog:-


Choose your Statin with Care in FXS, NF1 and idiopathic Autism







   Simvastatin does not reduce ERK1/2 or mTORC1 activation in the Fmr1-/y hippocampus.
So  ? = Does NOT inhibit

The key is to reduce Ras. In the above graphic it questions does Simvastatin inhibit RAS and Rheb.
                                                                                                     

For anyone really interested, the following graphic from a previous post shows the fragile X mental retardation protein, FMRP.  Lack of FMRP goes on increase neuroligins (NLFNS) this then creates an excitatory/inhibitory imbalance which cause mental retardation and features of autism.





This all suggests that the 25 year-old young man with Fragile X treated at UC Davis (case study above) should switch from Simvastatin to Lovastatin.




Metformin and Autophagy

I also think Dr Hagerman is less likely to get dementia now that she is talking metformin.  If she takes vigorous exercise at least once a week, I think that is also going to keep her grey cells ticking over nicely. Like Dr Ben Ari, Hr Hagerman is working way past normal retirement.  If you love your job, then why not?  As with many things, in the case of neurons, “use them or lose them”.

Autophagy in Dementias


Dementias are a varied group of disorders typically associated with memory loss, impaired judgment and/or language and by symptoms affecting other cognitive and social abilities to a degree that interferes with daily functioning. Alzheimer’s disease (AD) is the most common cause of a progressive dementia, followed by dementia with Lewy bodies (DLB), frontotemporal dementia (FTD), vascular dementia (VaD) and HIV associated neurocognitive disorders (HAND).
The pathogenesis of this group of disorders has been linked to the abnormal accumulation of proteins in the brains of affected individuals, which in turn has been related to deficits in protein clearance. Autophagy is a key cellular protein clearance pathway with proteolytic cleavage and degradation via the ubiquitin-proteasome pathway representing another important clearance mechanism. Alterations in the levels of autophagy and the proteins associated with the autophagocytic pathway have been reported in various types of dementias. This review will examine recent literature across these disorders and highlight a common theme of altered autophagy across the spectrum of the dementias.

Below is an excellent graphic from a paper highlighted by Ling. Note metformin, above AMPK.


Autophagy Activator Drugs: A New Opportunity in Neuroprotection from Misfolded Protein Toxicity









I would highlight the presence of IP3R, the calcium channel proposed by Gargus as being a nexus in autism, for where multiple types of autism meet up, to do damage.

Verapamil, in Monty’s Polypill, increases autophagy independently of mTOR in a complicated mechanism  involving IP3R and likley calpain.  It is proposed as a therapy for Huntington’s Disease via this mechanism. At the lower right of the chart below we see calpain, a group of calcium dependent enzymes, not well understood.  ROS can activate calpains via L-type calcium channels.





I would not worry about the details.  The take home point is that if you have autism, dementia or many other neurological conditions, you might well benefit from increasing autophagy.  There are very many ways to do this.      
                                                           
Conclusion

Fortunately, I am not a doctor.  I do recall when my doctor father was out visiting his sick patients at their homes, he did have not only his medical bag, but also some useful gadgets always kept in his car, that might come in handy.

The autism equivalent is the personalized Polypill therapy for daily use and the autism toolbox to delve into to treat flare-ups in autism as and when they arise.

I do think some people should have metformin in their daily Polypill therapy.

I think we can safely call Fragile-X a type of autism, so we already know it works for at least some autism.  Metformin is a very safe old drug, with minimal side effects and it is cheap.  It ticks all the boxes for a potential autism therapy.  Will it work for your case?  I can tell you with certainty that it does not work for everyone.

Metformin has been trialled to treat people with obesity and autism, since it can reduce appetite.

Metformin forTreatment of Overweight Induced by Atypical Antipsychotic Medication in YoungPeople With Autism Spectrum Disorder: A Randomized Clinical Trial.


INTERVENTIONS:

Metformin or matching placebo titrated up to 500 mg twice daily for children aged 6 to 9 years and 850 mg twice daily for those 10 to 17 years.

MAIN OUTCOMES AND MEASURES:

The primary outcome measure was change in body mass index (BMI) z score during 16 weeks of treatment. Secondary outcomes included changes in additional body composition and metabolic variables. Safety, tolerability, and efficacy analyses all used a modified intent-to-treat sample comprising all participants who received at least 1 dose of medication.

RESULTS:

Of the 61 randomized participants, 60 participants initiated treatment (45 [75%] male; mean [SD] age, 12.8 [2.7] years). Metformin reduced BMI z scores from baseline to week 16 significantly more than placebo (difference in 16-week change scores vs placebo, -0.10 [95% CI, -0.16 to -0.04]; P = .003). Statistically significant improvements were also noted in secondary body composition measures (raw BMI, -0.95 [95% CI, -1.46 to -0.45] and raw weight, -2.73 [95% CI, -4.04 to -1.43]) but not in metabolic variables. Overall, metformin was well tolerated. Five participants in the metformin group discontinued treatment owing to adverse events (agitation, 4; sedation, 1). Participants receiving metformin vs placebo experienced gastrointestinal adverse events during a significantly higher percentage of treatment days (25.1% vs 6.8%; P = .005).

CONCLUSIONS AND RELEVANCE:

Metformin may be effective in decreasing weight gain associated with atypical antipsychotic use and is well tolerated by children and adolescents with ASD.

My guess is that a minority will be responders, the benefit will manifest itself in different ways and so it will be a useful part of polytherapy for some people, but it will not be a silver bullet.  Other than via an IQ test, I think the benefit will be hard to measure, even when it is very evident. 

In the end there will be a clever way to predict who will respond to which therapy.  Today’s post actually replaces one that will look into genetic testing and DEGs (differentially expressed genes). Most likely testing for DEGs will be the best predictor of what drugs work for whom.

Intelligent, cautious trial and error using safe drugs is an alternative strategy.  It is available today; it is cheap and it does work.

I have not tried Metformin yet, in recent years I have had most success with my own ideas. I have some of Dr Frye's calcium folinate sitting at home waiting for a trial.  Both Metformin and calcium folinate should be trialled.  The other obvious thing to trial is that Japanese PDE4 inhibitor Ibudilast (Ketas).  Thanks to Rene we now know you can acquire this is via any international pharmacy in Germany, with a prescription. It also reappeared on the website of a Japanese online pharmacy. The Western PDE4 inhibitors, like Daxas/Roflumilast are not selective enough and so are emetic (they make you want to vomit). Low dose Roflumilast has been patented as a cognitive enhancer, but you may need to have a bucket with you at all times.




     






Wednesday 30 October 2019

More Research to support a Trial of Clemastine in Autism and particularly in Pitt Hopkins




                                                

Clemastine is an old antihistamine drug that we saw in earlier posts can stimulate oligodendrocytes to work harder and produce more myelin.

Myelin is needed to learn new skills and to control your body. It only starts to form in the third trimester, as the brain begins to grow rapidly. Myelination continues after birth but the rate appears to be controlled by social/emotional exposure.  The more isolated the baby is, the less myelin is produced.





                          









Interruption of the myelination process is known to cause long term problems.

Loss of myelin and lack of remyelination underlies Multiple Sclerosis.

It appears that loss of myelin may underlie cognitive loss in regressive autism, childhood disintegrative disorder and adult hypoxia.  First the myelin layer is lost and, depending on the underlying dysfunction, the neuron may die.  If it is just a case of lost myelin this can potentially be repaired.

Girls with Rett syndrome regress and lose previously acquired skills at about 18 months.  Is the loss of skills also a manifestation of a loss of myelin?  If so, can this loss of skills be controlled to minimize its effect?

In a previous post we have looked at the repurposing of Clemastine to improve remyelination.  At high doses this is an emerging therapy for Multiple Sclerosis (MS).  MS is a progressive disease where myelin is repeatedly lost.  Myelin is not permanent and constantly needs to be “remyelinated”.

As Ling has noted, the Pitt Hopkins syndrome researchers have published their results looking at mouse models of both Pitt Hopkins and broader autism and they have found that the same oligodendrocyte genes are indeed dysregulated in all these cases.
We already knew that myelin in idiopathic autism is thinner than it should be, which was why I was originally looking at ways to enhance myelination.

The new research gives further support for remyelination as a target for improving learning, cognitive function and motor skills in autism.  The new data shows that this likely particularly applies to those with Pitt Hopkins syndrome.  This syndrome is caused by a lack of Transcription Factor 4 (TCF4) when one of the two copies of its gene is not functional.  A more modest lack of TC4 is likely to be much more common that Pitt Hopkins itself.



Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) is genetically heterogeneous in nature with convergent symptomatology, suggesting dysregulation of common molecular pathways. We analyzed transcriptional changes in the brains of five independent mouse models of Pitt-Hopkins Syndrome (PTHS), a syndromic ASD caused by autosomal dominant mutation in TCF4, and identified considerable overlap in differentially expressed genes (DEGs). Gene and cell-type enrichment analyses of these DEGs highlighted oligodendrocyte dysregulation and we confirmed the myelin-associated transcriptional signature in two additional mouse models of syndromic ASD (Ptenm3m4/m3m4, Mecp2tm1.1Bird). We subsequently validated oligodendrocyte deficits in our Tcf4 mouse model which showed inefficient oligodendrocyte maturation in both an isolated oligodendrocyte in vitro cell culture system and ex vivo at day 24 (P24) and day 42 (P42). Furthermore, we used transmission electron microscopy (TEM) to visualize myelination in the corpus callosum (CC) of Tcf4+/tr and Tcf4+/+ littermates, observing a significant decrease in the proportion of myelinated axons in the CC of Tcf4+/tr mice compared to Tcf4+/+ littermates. Similar to our ex vivo IHC results, we observed a significant reduction in the number of CNP-positive oligodendrocytes in primary cultures derived from Tcf4+/tr mice compared to Tcf4+/+ littermates. When comparing compound action potentials (CAP) using electrophysiology, we show the ratio of N1/N2 is significantly reduced in the Tcf4+/tr mice compared to Tcf4+/+ littermates, indicative of a greater proportion of CAP traveling down unmyelinated axons. Moreover, we integrated syndromic PTHS mouse model DEGs with human ASD genes (SFARI) and human idiopathic ASD postmortem brain RNA-seq, and found significant enrichment of overlapping DEGs and common biological pathways associated with myelination. Remarkably, we show that DEGs from syndromic ASD mouse models can be used to identify human idiopathic ASD cases from controls. These results from seven independent mouse models of ASD are validated in human brain, implicating disruptions in oligodendrocyte biology as shared mechanisms in ASD pathology.


Here is more on the same paper:-



Genes involved in the formation of myelin, a fatty substance that sheathes neurons, are altered in brain tissue from autistic people and in several mouse models. The mice also have unusually few myelinated nerve fibers.
Researchers presented the unpublished findings yesterday at the 2019 Society for Neuroscience annual meeting in Chicago, Illinois.
“In general, across the whole spectrum, there’s a defect in myelination,” says Brady Maher, lead investigator at the Lieber Institute for Brain Development in Baltimore, Maryland.
Myelination is the process by which neuronal fibers are coated in myelin. Myelin is made by brain cells called oligodendrocytes, and it enables fast neuronal signaling.
Maher and his colleagues saw hints that myelination is disrupted in Pitt-Hopkins syndrome, an autism-related condition caused by mutations in a gene called TCF4. Children with this rare syndrome are slow to learn to walk, and most are minimally verbal; some have autism.
The researchers analyzed gene expression patterns in five mouse models of this syndrome, each with a different mutation in TCF4. They found that in all of the mice, genes involved in myelination are among those with altered expression.

The researchers then compared gene expression patterns of the mutant mice with those of two other autism mouse models: mice with mutations in MECP2 or PTEN. All three mouse models show alterations in the expression of a shared set of 34 genes, most of which are involved in myelination.
The same genes show atypical expression in two independent gene-expression datasets from autistic people, the researchers found.
Maher says his team is investigating why the TCF4 mutant mice have too few oligodendrocytes. They are also testing whether drugs that enhance myelination reverse the mice’s problems.

Clemastine in Autism

Several readers of this blog have reported a positive effect from Clemastine, you can find their comments in earlier posts.

Monty, aged 16 with ASD, has been using it for many months and it will be added to my Polypill at the next update.

In the US Clemastine is no longer available in the OTC form.  It is available as a generic with a prescription


In the rest of the world it is called Tavegil, or Tavegyl and being a common hay fever drug is usually OTC (no prescription).

In the Baltic states 20 tablets cost Eur 5 (USD 5.50). In the United Kingdom 60 tablets costs GBP 10 (USD 13).  You may have to ask the pharmacy to order it for you, it is not widely stocked, or order it online.

A 1 mg tablet of Clemastine contains 1.34 mg of Clemastine hydrogen fumarate.  This can be confusing because one product is marked 1mg and the identical tablet is elsewhere marked 1.34mg.

The US product by Teva is Clemastine 2mg containing 2.7 mg of Clemastine hydrogen fumarate

The experimental dose in Multiple Sclerosis is so high it causes drowsiness.  Clemastine affects histamine H1 receptors in the brain and so makes you sleepy.

My “autism dose” is less than the hay fever dose and is 1mg Clemastine (containing 1.34 mg of Clemastine hydrogen fumarate) taken in the evening.

Some readers are giving a morning dose and an evening dose, as you would for hay fever.  I would expect this to have a greater effect on oligodendrocytes, but will come at the cost of a degree of drowsiness, which may or may not be important.

I think people should be given clemastine immediately after a regression into autism and also anyone suffering as result of hypoxia. We saw the MRI of a man treated with clemastine after hypoxia in an earlier post and we saw the myelin damage and its repair.

Given 18 months of age is the typical age for the first regression in autism, perhaps pediatricians should take note? Perhaps the Johns Hopkins doctors should try using it on their patients with mitochondrial disorders?

I would also think those with what was called CDD (childhood disintegrative disorder) would be likely beneficiaries.

Comments so far suggest that clemastine benefits some people more than others, but this is exactly what you would expect.  In the case of the man with hypoxia, clemastine really was a silver bullet, it was given very promptly and loss of myelin was his only problem.  Most people with severe autism have more problems than just patchy myelin.


Treatment Window

In some single gene autism there does appear to be a treatment window and this has been confirmed in animal models. One example is the very expensive use of the drug Rapamycin in TSC (tuberous sclerosis complex).

Multiple Critical Periods for Rapamycin Treatment to Correct Structural Defects in Tsc-1-Suppressed Brain


Many interventions however do seem to be beneficial regardless of age.

This can be summed up as “it's never too late, but the sooner you start the better the result will be”.

Will a toddler with Pitt Hopkins learn to walk much earlier if taking Clemastine?  The logic is there to support this.

Will a girl with Rett Syndrome regress less far if taking Clemastine, during the regression?


Conclusion

Most parents naturally hesitate to give drugs to treat children with autism. They do not hesitate to give numerous drugs to their elderly relatives, who are the ones who are most likely to get side effects and have much less time to benefit from them.

Some drugs are much safer than others and the irony is that the drugs commonly used to treat autism by psychiatrists are the ones with known problems.

It appears that many very safe existing drugs can be used to treat features of autism.

Do you wait a decade, or likely more, to see if a safe old hay fever drug might improve cognition and/or motor skills in your case of autism or Pitt Hopkins? Or just buy these hay fever pills and see for yourself?

7 Previous posts on/including Clemastine:-