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Sunday, 21 September 2025

TRH and Rifaximin – an alternative to intranasal TRH or oral Taltirelin/Ceredist?

I think this is going to be one of my smarter posts. It may be more for our doctor readers and our motivated home-based researchers. It does remain a hypothesis and while it looks plausible it is certainly not 100% proven – so typical Peter stuff.

Many parents with autism regularly treat their child with the antibiotic Rifaximin. This drug is also the go-to therapy for SIBO (small intestine bacterial overgrowth) and is a key part of the Nemechek autism protocol to increase butyric acid production in the gut (and reduce propionic acid).

Some parents report that their child with completely normal GI function responds well behaviorally to Rifaximin.

Rifaximin is taken orally and stays in the gut, it does not enter the blood stream.

Our long-time reader Maja mentioned that she still uses Rifaximin in her now adult daughter.

I then did a quick Google and was surprised to see Rifaximin linked to the hormone TRH.

And, most surprising, you can use Rifaximin to treat prostate inflammation, via its effect on TRH.

TRH was the subject of an experiment I did 12 years ago. I suggested that an existing Japanese drug, an orally available TRH super-agonist, could be repurposed at a low dose to treat autism.

 https://www.epiphanyasd.com/2014/05/the-peter-hypothesis-of-trh-induced.html

I then noted that a well-known, but a little controversial, doctor in the US used intranasal TRH to treat his patients with chronic fatigue syndrome.

Another doctor had grant funding from the US military to develop intranasal TRH to reduce suicides in veterans.

In my old post I started by wondering why my son and some others with severe autism respond so well to sensory stimulation like standing on the upper deck of a ferry boat in the open sea on a windy day, or sitting in an open-top bus, driving in a convertible car etc.

Without be able to do any testing I looked for “similar” situations that haven been studied. The closest I found was people jumping out of a plan (with a parachute) where one of the key changes was a surge in the level of the hormone prolactin.

How to replicate the open-top bus effect? One of my doctor relatives suggested sitting Monty in front of a fan. Over course I wanted better than that. I found that stimulating TRH receptors in the brain would release prolactin.  It was already known that TRH is disturbed in autism.

It seemed to me that a Japanese orphan drug developed to treat spinocerebellar degeneration (SCD) – a group of progressive neurodegenerative disorders characterized by ataxia (poor coordination, gait disturbance, speech difficulties) could be repurposed.

I did discuss with a Japanese doctor in Osaka and he prescribed it.

It is a very expensive drug, even when bought with a prescription, and it has a very short expiry date. The idea was to use a micro-dose, to avoid undesirable side effects and this would also make the price less scary. I thought it provided a benefit without side effects, but was impractical. At the full dose it is potent and is the only drug I have trialed that had a near immediate profound effect on myself. I suddenly had hyper-acute vision. The micro dose had no effect on me.

Since Ceredist (taltirelin) is a TRH analogue, it could in theory affect the hypothalamic–pituitary–thyroid (HPT) axis.

TRH normally stimulates TSH release from the pituitary, which then increases thyroid hormone (T4/T3) secretion. Taltirelin was designed for CNS activity rather than endocrine use. Its clinical development in Japan for spinocerebellar degeneration focused on neurological symptoms, not thyroid stimulation. Animal studies showed that taltirelin has much weaker TSH-releasing activity than native TRH, but much stronger central nervous system stimulant effects (improved motor coordination, wakefulness).

Human data at therapeutic doses for spinocerebellar degeneration, significant changes in thyroid hormone levels (TSH, T3, T4) have not been a common clinical issue. Monitoring thyroid function is not part of standard Ceredist treatment.

 

So what is TRH?

TRH (thyrotropin-releasing hormone) serves as a master regulator of energy metabolism, mood, arousal, cognition, and immune balance.

Core Endocrine Role

Produced in the hypothalamus (paraventricular nucleus), but also found in other brain regions and peripheral tissues.

Main function is to stimulate the anterior pituitary to release TSH (thyroid-stimulating hormone), this increases thyroid hormone (T3, T4) production in the thyroid gland.

A secondary effect promotes prolactin release from the pituitary. TRH is a significant stimulator, especially when dopamine inhibition is reduced.

 

Effects on Other Hormones

Growth hormone & insulin: Some modulatory effects reported in stress and metabolism, though less central.

ACTH/cortisol: Minor indirect effects; TRH can modulate stress responses via cross-talk with the HPA axis.

 

Mood and Behavior

Antidepressant effects - TRH has rapid mood-elevating and activating effects in both animals and humans, independent of thyroid hormones. Some clinical studies have tested TRH or TRH analogs as rapid-acting antidepressants.

Arousal & vigilance - it increases wakefulness, motivation, and locomotor activity.

Anxiety - can produce mild anxiogenic effects at high doses, but generally associated with improved mood and alertness.

 

Cognition

Neurotransmitter modulation - TRH interacts with cholinergic, dopaminergic, and glutamatergic systems.

Memory & learning - TRH and TRH-like peptides enhance memory consolidation and counteract cognitive decline in animal studies.

Neuroprotection - shown to reduce neuronal injury in models of ischemia and trauma.

 

Inflammation & Immunity

 Anti-inflammatory - TRH dampens pro-inflammatory cytokine production (e.g., TNF-α, IL-1β).

Microglia modulation - TRH reduces microglial over-activation, relevant in neuroinflammation.

Systemic effects: TRH analogs show protective roles in sepsis and multiple organ injury in animal studies, likely via immune regulation and mitochondrial support.

 

Here is the recent study that showed the common antibiotic Rifaximin increases TRH in the brain and in peripheral tissues. Rifaximin itself stays within the gut when taken by mouth, it does not enter the blood stream. It changes the gut microbiota which then sends a signal via vagus nerve to the brain (clever, isn’t it?).

Caveat – rats are not humans.

 

Rifaximin modulates TRH and TRH-like peptide expression throughout the brain and peripheral tissues of male rats

 

The TRH/TRH-R1 receptor signaling pathway within the neurons of the dorsal vagal complex is an important mediator of the brain-gut axis. Mental health and protection from a variety of neuropathologies, such as autism, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s disease, major depression, migraine and epilepsy are influenced by the gut microbiome and is mediated by the vagus nerve. The antibiotic rifaximin (RF) does not cross the gut-blood barrier. It changes the composition of the gut microbiome resulting in therapeutic benefits for traveler’s diarrhea, hepatic encephalopathy, and prostatitis. TRH and TRH-like peptides, with the structure pGlu-X-Pro-NH2, where “X” can be any amino acid residue, have reproduction-enhancing, caloric-restriction-like, anti-aging, pancreatic-β cell-, cardiovascular-, and neuroprotective effects. TRH and TRH-like peptides occur not only throughout the CNS but also in peripheral tissues. To elucidate the involvement of TRH-like peptides in brain-gut-reproductive system interactions 16 male Sprague–Dawley rats, 203 ± 6 g, were divided into 4 groups (n = 4/group): the control (CON) group remained on ad libitum Purina rodent chow and water for 10 days until decapitation, acute (AC) group receiving 150 mg RF/kg powdered rodent chow for 24 h providing 150 mg RF/kg body weight for 200 g rats, chronic (CHR) animals receiving RF for 10 days; withdrawal (WD) rats receiving RF for 8 days and then normal chow for 2 days.

Results

Significant changes in the levels of TRH and TRH-like peptides occurred throughout the brain and peripheral tissues in response to RF. The number of significant changes in TRH and TRH-like peptide levels in brain resulting from RF treatment, in descending order were: medulla (16), piriform cortex (8), nucleus accumbens (7), frontal cortex (5), striatum (3), amygdala (3), entorhinal cortex (3), anterior (2), and posterior cingulate (2), hippocampus (1), hypothalamus (0) and cerebellum (0). The corresponding ranking for peripheral tissues were: prostate (6), adrenals (4), pancreas (3), liver (2), testis (1), heart (0).

Conclusions

The sensitivity of TRH and TRH-like peptide expression to RF treatment, particularly in the medulla oblongata and prostate, is consistent with the participation of these peptides in the therapeutic effects of RF. 

 

It turns out that other researchers have looked at Rifaximin’s effects on the brain, but they never understood the mechanism.

 

Effects of Rifaximin on Central Responses to Social Stress—a Pilot Experiment

Probiotics that promote the gut microbiota have been reported to reduce stress responses, and improve memory and mood. Whether and how antibiotics that eliminate or inhibit pathogenic and commensal gut bacteria also affect central nervous system functions in humans is so far unknown. In a double-blinded randomized study, 16 healthy volunteers (27.00 ± 1.60 years; 9 males) received either rifaximin (600 mg/day) (a poorly absorbable antibiotic) or placebo for 7 days. Before and after the drug intervention, brain activities during rest and during a social stressor inducing feelings of exclusion (Cyberball game) were measured using magnetoencephalography. Social exclusion significantly affected (p < 0.001) mood and increased exclusion perception. Magnetoencephalography showed brain regions with higher activations during exclusion as compared to inclusion, in different frequency bands. Seven days of rifaximin increased prefrontal and right cingulate alpha power during resting state. Low beta power showed an interaction of intervention (rifaximin, placebo) × condition (inclusion, exclusion) during the Cyberball game in the bilateral prefrontal and left anterior cingulate cortex. Only in the rifaximin group, a decrease (p = 0.004) in power was seen comparing exclusion to inclusion; the reduced beta-1 power was negatively correlated with a change in the subjective exclusion perception score. Social stress affecting brain functioning in a specific manner is modulated by rifaximin. Contrary to our hypothesis that antibiotics have advert effects on mood, the antibiotic exhibited stress-reducing effects similar to reported effects of probiotic

 

Effects of the antibiotic rifaximin on cortical functional connectivity are mediated through insular cortex

It is well-known that antibiotics affect commensal gut bacteria; however, only recently evidence accumulated that gut microbiota (GM) can influence the central nervous system functions. Preclinical animal studies have repeatedly highlighted the effects of antibiotics on brain activity; however, translational studies in humans are still missing. Here, we present a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study investigating the effects of 7 days intake of Rifaximin (non-absorbable antibiotic) on functional brain connectivity (fc) using magnetoencephalography. Sixteen healthy volunteers were tested before and after the treatment, during resting state (rs), and during a social stressor paradigm (Cyberball game—CBG), designed to elicit feelings of exclusion. Results confirm the hypothesis of an involvement of the insular cortex as a common node of different functional networks, thus suggesting its potential role as a central mediator of cortical fc alterations, following modifications of GM. Also, the Rifaximin group displayed lower connectivity in slow and fast beta bands (15 and 25 Hz) during rest, and higher connectivity in theta (7 Hz) during the inclusion condition of the CBG, compared with controls. Altogether these results indicate a modulation of Rifaximin on frequency-specific functional connectivity that could involve cognitive flexibility and memory processing.

  

Probing gut‐brain links in Alzheimer's disease with rifaximin

Gut‐microbiome‐inflammation interactions have been linked to neurodegeneration in Alzheimer's disease (AD) and other disorders. We hypothesized that treatment with rifaximin, a minimally absorbed gut‐specific antibiotic, may modify the neurodegenerative process by changing gut flora and reducing neurotoxic microbial drivers of inflammation. In a pilot, open‐label trial, we treated 10 subjects with mild to moderate probable AD dementia (Mini‐Mental Status Examination (MMSE) = 17 ± 3) with rifaximin for 3 months. Treatment was associated with a significant reduction in serum neurofilament‐light levels (P < .004) and a significant increase in fecal phylum Firmicutes microbiota. Serum phosphorylated tau (pTau)181 and glial fibrillary acidic protein (GFAP) levels were reduced (effect sizes of −0.41 and −0.48, respectively) but did not reach statistical significance. In addition, there was a nonsignificant downward trend in serum cytokine interleukin (IL)‐6 and IL‐13 levels. Cognition was unchanged. Increases in stool Erysipelatoclostridium were correlated significantly with reductions in serum pTau181 and serum GFAP. Insights from this pilot trial are being used to design a larger placebo‐controlled clinical trial to determine if specific microbial flora/products underlie neurodegeneration, and whether rifaximin is clinically efficacious as a therapeutic.

 

Rifaximin and the prostate

For some reason one of the main areas where Rifaximin triggers the production of TRH is in the prostate, in males. There are studies showing how Rifaximin can be used to treat prostatitis (prostate inflammation).

Symptom Severity Following Rifaximin and the Probiotic VSL#3 in Patients with Chronic Pelvic Pain Syndrome (Due to Inflammatory Prostatitis) Plus Irritable Bowel Syndrome

This study investigated the effects of long-term treatment with rifaximin and the probiotic VSL#3 on uro-genital and gastrointestinal symptoms in patients with chronic prostatitis/chronic pelvic pain syndrome (CP/CPPS) plus diarrhoea-predominant irritable bowel syndrome (D-IBS) compared with patients with D-IBS alone. Eighty-five patients with CP/CPPS (45 with subtype IIIa and 40 with IIIb) plus D-IBS according to the Rome III criteria and an aged-matched control-group of patients with D-IBS alone (n = 75) received rifaximin and VSL#3. The primary endpoints were the response rates of IBS and CP/CPPS symptoms, assessed respectively through Irritable Bowel Syndrome Severity Scoring System (IBS-SSS) and The National Institute of Health Chronic Prostatitis Symptom Index (NIH-CPSI), and performed at the start of therapy (V0) and three months after (V3). In IIIa prostatitis patients, the total NIH-CPSI scores significantly (p < 0.05) decreased from a baseline mean value of 21.2 to 14.5 at V3 , as did all subscales, and in the IIIb the total NIH-CPSI score also significantly decreased (from 17.4 to 15.1). Patients with IBS alone showed no significant differences in NIH-CPSI score. At V3, significantly greater improvement in the IBS-SSS and responder rate were found in IIIa patients. Our results were explained through a better individual response at V3 in IIIa prostatitis of urinary and gastrointestinal symptoms, while mean leukocyte counts on expressed prostate secretion (EPS) after prostate massage significantly lowered only in IIIa cases. 

Since SIBO is treated by rifaximin, some researchers linked SIBO with prostatitis: 

Chronic prostatitis and small intestinal bacterial overgrowth: is there a correlation?

Background: Clinical management of chronic inflammation of prostate and seminal vesicles is very complex. Among the causes of recurrent chronic prostatitis (CP), a possible malabsorption, such as lactose intolerance, in turn related to small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO), should be considered.

Methods: We have performed lactose and lactulose breath test (BT) in 42 patients with CP, in order to evaluate the prevalence of SIBO in this kind of patients and the concordance of the two tests.

Results: A positive lactulose BT was present in 33/42 patients and in 73% (24/33) was associated to lactose malabsorption. Five patients had positive response after lactulose, while only 4 had both negative tests.

Conclusions: Our data showed an association between lactose and lactulose BT positivity. They also indicated high prevalence of bacterial colonization of small bowel in patients with CP, possibly related to recurrence or chronicity of genitourinary tract inflammation. The research for these phenomena could be relevant in diagnostic route of infertile patients in whom slight gastro-enteric symptoms can be underestimated.

 

For those of you who still read books:

 

Betrayal by the Brain: The Neurologic Basis of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia Syndrome, and Related Neural Network Disorders
This seminal work presents Dr. Goldstein's theory that CFS and fibromyalgia result from dysfunctions in neural networks. It integrates neuroscience research into the pathophysiology and treatment of these conditions.

A Companion Volume to Dr. Jay A. Goldstein's Betrayal by the Brain: A Guide for Patients and Their Physicians
Authored by Katie Courmel, this companion guide simplifies Dr. Goldstein's theories and treatment protocols for a broader audience, aiding patients and physicians in understanding and applying his methods.

 Tuning the Brain: Principles and Practice of Neurosomatic Medicine

In this book, Dr. Goldstein outlines the principles of neurosomatic medicine, a field he developed that combines neurology, psychiatry, and pharmacology to treat chronic illnesses.

In Tuning the Brain: Principles and Practice of Neurosomatic Medicine, Dr. Jay A. Goldstein discusses the use of thyrotropin-releasing hormone (TRH) in treating chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) and related disorders. He describes TRH as a neuropeptide that can modulate neural network activity, particularly through the trigeminal nerve, which is involved in sensory processing. By stimulating this pathway, TRH may help "re-tune" the brain's response to sensory input, potentially alleviating symptoms associated with CFS and similar conditions.

The book outlines the principles of neurosomatic medicine, a field Dr. Goldstein developed that combines neurology, psychiatry, and pharmacology to treat chronic illnesses. It emphasizes the rapid modulation of neural networks through pharmacological means, aiming to restore normal sensory processing and alleviate symptoms.

 

Conclusion

It does look like Rifaximin has interesting effects beyond where it can reach itself.

Rifaximin → modifies gut microbiota → activates vagus nerve

Vagus nerve → signals to brainstem → hypothalamus → TRH release 

According to that rat study, TRH and TRH-like peptides are present in the prostate, and their levels change in response to rifaximin. The TRH (or TRH-like peptides) in the prostate is produced locally in the prostate tissue itself, not delivered there from the brain via the bloodstream. the level of production can be modulated by gut–brain signaling, such as after rifaximin treatment.

I have to say that this reminds me of using L-Reuteri probiotic bacteria to send a signal via the same vagus nerve to release oxytocin in the brain. Seems a better approach than intranasal oxytocin.

I think the study showing Rifaximin improves the response to social stress fits with Dr Goldstein’s use of intranasal TRH to “retune” the brain in the conditions he studied and the potential use to reduce suicide initiations. It is enough for me to see TRH as a possible common factor.

I think Goldstein and the US DoD scientists should have used the TRH super-agonist Taltirelin/Ceredist. It is 30x more potent and yet does not affect thyroid function. It also has a far longer half-life. The other alternative, we now see, would have been to use Rifaximin.

Goldstein has passed away and the US DoD gave upon TRH. Research indicates that intranasal esketamine can rapidly reduce suicidal thoughts. Esketamine was FDA approved in 2019.

Taltirelin was approved for use in humans in Japan in 2000 for spinocerebellar degeneration (SCD).

Note that spinocerebellar degeneration (SCD) has no drug therapy in the US/Europe, even though one has existed in Japan for 25 years. Looks pretty odd to me. In a perfect world low dose Taltirelin could be a useful add-on therapy for many neurological conditions and potentially even for prostatitis! Don’t hold your breath.

Taltirelin is now being researched in animal models of Parkinson’s and fatigue syndromes.

Unless you live in Japan and have a pal who is a doctor, I think autism parents are best off with Rifaximin.

As Maja just pointed out “Rifaximin is still very helpful. I repeat a ten-day course (2x400 mg) every two to three months”, in her adult daughter. We can never know for sure if increased TRH is mechanism, or reduced SIBO, or increased butyric acid, or something else. If it works, stay with it!




30 comments:

  1. Another point for treating the gut. Fascinating how it's basically a chemical factory that affects us for better or worse.
    Curious what these "TRH-like peptides" are or if they'll ever be available as "research peptides" supplements. We've been getting into those lately. Particularly KPV, Cognipep, Thymogen alpha-1 and Selank. KPV and thymogen a-1 practically cured my chronic tonsillitis and frequent illness due to mold exposure, so naturally I was excited to try it next for my son. He is also taking Cognipep. His OCD has recently disappeared and PANS flares improved, which I don't know whether it's due to the peptides or the recently added sulforaphane or the gut balancing program we started a few weeks before—probably some of all of them.

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    1. The gut does seem to be key to development of many neurological conditions. This has been demonstrated with certainty in Parkinsons and near certainty in Alzheimers. Changes in the gut precedent symptoms in the brain by many years. Lack of butyric acid producing bacteria is common.

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    2. Would you please update us on your thoughts about what helped most for OCD for your son, if it becomes more clear in time? Tonsillitis and OCD are connected for some... Thank you!

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    3. OCD and stimming have many possible causes.

      In some people it is caused by over-active glutamate signaling. This can be rebalanced with NAC. NAC doesn’t simply “reduce glutamate” — it helps the brain rebalance it. After NAC is converted into cystine (it’s cystine, not cysteine, that matters), it uses a special swap mechanism (the cystine–glutamate antiporter) to let a little extra glutamate leak out of support cells in the brain. This small, steady release of glutamate doesn’t cause overstimulation — instead it switches on calming receptors (called mGluR2/3) that tell neurons to stop dumping too much glutamate into the synapse.

      Think of it like a thermostat for glutamate: a tiny controlled signal tells the brain to turn down the heat on overactive circuits. The end result is a healthier balance and reduced compulsive urges like hair pulling or OCD.

      OCD can be influenced by oxidative stress independently of glutamate signaling, NAC should be effective in this case as well.

      If NAC does reduce OCD, but some remains then add taurine. NAC needs to be taken 3 times a day for OCD/stimming.

      OCD can also be caused by an auto-immune reaction. This is the case when tonsilitis causes OCD and it really overlaps with PANS-PANDAS. Clear the infection with antibiotics and if it keeps reoccurring consider tonsillectomy. Tonsillectomy/adenoidectomy can be very effective in some cases of OCD.

      Often the problem remains after antibiotics and so you need to combine with NSAIDs, oral steroids and in the extreme cases IVIG.

      In my son’s case he had obsessive/repetitive behaviors that really got in the way of learning anything. This responded very well to high dose NAC. The effect is within 20 minutes. As an adult there is much less of this kind of behavior and so he takes 600mg of NAC sustain and 300mg of ALA sustain a day. He also takes 2g of taurine.

      One 3 occasions, he had a PANS-like episode with acute onset tics. This responded well each time to a 5 day course of the steroid Prednisone.

      I think the sooner you treat this behavior the better the long term outcome will be. It is not a self-regulating behavior, it is a clear symptom that something is not right inside the brain.

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    4. Thanks for your reply, Peter. I find NAC very interesting, and I think I tried it, but I don't remember the outcome. Currently, since we've resorted to medications, it seems that NAC can't be combined with medications, although I'd like to use it again. I'm also a bit worried about all the sulfur-containing substances because my son has CBS.
      My son does has PANS, which had a sudden onset at 11 years old, when his autism had resolved. He took antibiotics, but only after the onset, and they helped, but the OCD persisted. When he had flare-ups or two panic attacks, they resolved with ibuprofen. ALA is also an excellent supplement, but since it crosses the BBB, I'd prefer to use it as suggested by ACC, my son definitely has oxidative stress, that too could be due to heavy metals. Unfortunately, my son grew up right around the time PANS was labeled, so he's been struggling with it for quite a while, any your thought is much appreciated

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    5. CBS is the enzyme that converts homocysteine → cystathionine → cysteine.

      Depending on the mutation:

      Overactive CBS (“upregulating”) → homocysteine may be low, cysteine may be high, and sulfur load can build up.

      Underactive CBS (“classic deficiency”) → homocysteine may be high, cysteine low, and risk of vascular/neurological problems increases.

      So, you would need to measure homocysteine to know the implications for supplements like NAC, ALA, or other sulfur compounds:

      If CBS is overactive, extra sulfur can worsen symptoms (ammonia buildup, irritability, methylation stress).

      If CBS is underactive, cysteine precursors may actually help normalize glutathione and antioxidant capacity.

      PANS needs aggressive treatment otherwise the symptoms persist. Steroid therapy is inexpensive. IVIG is now common in the US for PANS, but is extremely exepensive.

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    6. Omocysteine luckily is normal, IVIG in my country doesn't seem to have great success and it carries some risk, thank you for your answers

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  2. TRH is available from some of the Polish body building supplement sites if anyone is interested. It is injectable though.

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    1. This is what you use to make Dr Goldstein's intranasal formulation, except his came from the pharmacy.

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  3. FDA finally approves Leucovorin for autism. At last.

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    1. Now the FDA just needs to remove the mandatory folic acid fortification.

      Higher concentrations of cord UMFA, but not 5-methyl THF or total folate, were associated with a greater risk of ASD in Black children.

      A prospective birth cohort study on cord blood folate subtypes and risk of autism spectrum disorder

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32844208/

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    2. Problem now is it’s now gone political, Drs refusing to prescribe it, Pharmacists refusing to supply it.

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    3. At least more people are talking about it

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  4. I wonder if a similar effect on the TRH could be gotten with inulin fiber (readily available, palatable as gummies) which is commonly used for SIBO?

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    1. This is actually plausible since inulin increases butyric acid and this directly affects the brain. There some links to TRH, but nobody has yet studied if inulin raises TRH.

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  5. Peter question, was Monty ever vaccinated? Your recent comment on NAC and Taurine peaked my interest. As you know, I have two sons with the folate autoantibodies. But one has severe autism the other has a significant speech delay but nothing else. The one with severe autism stims and the other does not. The only medication that blocks stimming in its tracks is cibinqo. When I given Stephen the cysteine rich whey protein, or whey protein in general, it increases hyperactivity. I think its because of the glutamate in whey protein. Furthermore, Stephen cannot control his il1b because of being vaccinated.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iAQXhkb-bW5d3fOb-pXP3zTbES8AjMYn/view?usp=drivesdk

    IL-1β and TNF-α induce neurotoxicity through glutamate production: a potential role for neuronal glutaminase

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23578284/

    Just a thought...

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    1. Stephen, Monty is fully vaccinated.

      From your spreadsheet, all three siblings have very strong cytokine responses to at least in some stimuli.

      This fits with immune dysregulation in autism, especially where one child has severe autism with stimming, and the other has mainly speech delay.

      High IL-1β/TNF-α → more glutamate release → more excitotoxicity/hyperactivity.

      This explains why whey protein (rich in cysteine) worsens hyperactivity — it increases glutamate release via cystine–glutamate antiporter. It also explains why cibinqo (JAK inhibitor) helped stop stimming — because it blocks the cytokine→glutamate pathway.

      Cytokine over-activation (IL-1β, TNF-α) likely drives excessive glutamate in the CNS, worsening autism symptoms. Your daughter has high IL-1 β but not autism. This shows that multiple “hits” are required to trigger autism and also the female protective effect.

      Have you tried ALA — unlike NAC, or cysteine itself — ALA does not donate cysteine and does not push the cystine–glutamate antiporter. ALA is a direct antioxidant, plus it recycles vitamin C and vitamin E. ALA is also a cofactor in mitochondrial energy metabolism. It is unusual in being both water and fat soluble, so it can get everywhere.

      Other potentially useful antioxidants:

      Taurine – antioxidant, osmoregulator, mild GABA agonist, reduces glutamate toxicity. taurine does not contain cysteine, but it is synthesized in the body from cysteine

      Vitamin C – regenerates other antioxidants, modulates glutamate uptake, works well with taurine/NAC (but doesn’t require cysteine). Very high dose vitamin C showed promise in a trial in 1993 and was then fogotten about. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8255984/

      Vitamin E / CoQ10 / PQQ – mitochondrial antioxidants, no cysteine involvement.

      You mentioned previously that CoQ10 is beneficial.

      CoQ10 (especially the reduced form, ubiquinol) plays a key role in recycling other antioxidants in the body.

      Vitamin E recycling
      Vitamin E protects cell membranes from lipid peroxidation. When vitamin E neutralizes free radicals, it becomes oxidized. CoQ10 in its reduced form can regenerate vitamin E back to its active antioxidant form in cell membranes.

      Vitamin C recycling (indirectly)
      Vitamin C can regenerate oxidized vitamin E.
      By keeping vitamin E active, CoQ10 indirectly supports vitamin C function in antioxidant networks.

      Glutathione synergy
      CoQ10 works alongside glutathione and NAD(P)H to maintain redox balance, though it does not directly recycle glutathione.
      It helps reduce oxidative stress in mitochondria, complementing glutathione’s antioxidant effects.

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    2. Excellent, I will try ALA out. I have a script for Anakinra, but I wanted to hit some of the low hanging fruits first. I have tried high dose liposomal vitamin c in the past, but it causes an antibiotic effect.

      Antibacterial effect of vitamin C against uropathogenic E. coli in vitro and in vivo

      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10116447/

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    3. Stephen, did you consider Colchicine ?

      It is much cheaper and easier to administer than Anakinra.
      Read section 3.4 in Dr Jyonouchi’s paper:

      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11228311/

      Even Celecoxib might, indirectly, show some benefit and is widely used in autism.

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    4. Peter, thank you for the advice. I will add Colchine on to my trial list with ALA. I'm currently working with Ethosuximide and I will report results soon.

      It appears ethosuximide can decrease clostridium and proteobacteria. (Doing so would decrease p-cresol and LPS)

      First evidence of altered microbiota and intestinal damage and their link to absence epilepsy in a genetic animal model, the WAG/Rij rat

      https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/epi.16813

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  6. Hello Peter,

    Have you considered DIY FMT for your son? using yourself or another family member as the donor

    It seems that FMT can also help people that dont have GI symptoms but only neurological symptoms, and it seems oral capsules might be as effective as enema surprisingly in some cases which seems counter intuitive as the colon bacteria would go into the small intestine first. I feel like FMT is one of the most promising treatments potentially but it could be a miss as more research is done for different conditions

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    1. No I have not done this, but I know of people who have tried it.

      I actually think the ultimate solution is not human FMT but a synthetic product with thousands of different bacteria without the risk of contamination.

      If seems that this approach is far more effective than daily probiotics. I think this is because you need a wide range of added bacteria and a huge number of colony forming units. This is something no commercial probiotic yet offers.

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    2. I contacted universities locally ages ago to ask if they were doing FMT trials for autism but nothing. How does one go about doing this safely should they desire to? I'm at present content with my current treatment protocol but I want to be as close to a person with a healthy brain as possible, hence I'm always open to ideas.

      I did try a range of bacterial strains including L Gasseri, L Plantararum and L Rhamnosus. It did little for my autism but I seemed to be healthier otherwise.

      I have posted elsewhere about my current LLLT journey and interestingly, the abdominal PBM is in part effective according to the clinic because it encourages a healthy gut as well as doing the mitochondrial magic. I have only recently added the abdominal PBM to my treatment routine and I'm hoping that like with the children who do the same treatment in a clinic, it will enhance my healing and improvement from the device I have used on my head for over 2 months.

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    3. FMT is only officially approved for those with a recurring Clostridioides difficile gut infection.

      There are clinics abroad that offer it for autism, in Slovakia for example. Look on Google.

      It is not rocket science, but you need a healthy donor that is not carrying something nasty.

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    4. Thank you for your input. I will keep this in mind should I decide to pursue this intervention.

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    5. You can go to Syndey Australia to have it done.

      https://centrefordigestivediseases.com/

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    6. Thank you. Slovakia is probably the cheapest option for me in the UK.

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  7. Interesting probiotic study

    The probiotic group showed significant reductions in childhood autism rating scale (CARS) scores with notable improvements in affect and anxiety reactions

    Supplementation of Bifidobacterium longum subsp. longum CCFM1077 demonstrates regulatory potential on emotions and gut microbiota in children with autism spectrum disorder: a pilot trial

    https://www.sciopen.com/article/10.26599/FSHW.2025.9250646

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  8. Thanks, looks great, now the challenge is to find the specific strain outside China.
    SB

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    1. Two of the key changes were an increase in butyric acid and in vitamin D absorbed into the bloodstream. These you can replicate with sodium butyrate and a vitamin D supplement. Sodium butyrate is used by GI doctors in many countries and is OTC. There are many butric acid producing probiotics.

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