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Tuesday 26 May 2020

Bumetanide for TSC-type Autism, Verapamil now for sinusitis, Lower dose Folinic Acid looks interesting for Autism in France, Roche cuts Balovaptan and Basmisanil; Stanford continue repurposing Vasopressin for Autism

 Repurposing what already exists – cheap, safe, effective and sometimes colourful


Today’s post is nice and simple.

Yet another sub-type of autism is shown in a clinical trial to respond to the cheap drug bumetanide, this time it is children diagnosed with TSC (tuberous sclerosis complex); TSC is a leading genetic cause of autism often used in research.

In France researchers repurposed Folinoral, a lower dose equivalent of Dr Frye’s, and our reader Roger’s, Leucovorin to treat autism with a positive result.  Folinoral is Calcium Folinate, but the dose was just 5mg twice a day, much less than the dose used in the US research.

The potential off-label uses for Verapamil, the old calcium channel blocker helpful in some autism, continue to grow.

Original purpose:  

Lower blood pressure by blocking L-type calcium channels

Alternative uses:

·        Treating bipolar disorder
·        Treating cluster headaches and some migraine
·        Halting the loss of insulin production in people with diabetes
·        Treating diarrhea-predominant irritable bowel syndrome (IBS-D)
·        Treating aggression/anxiety in some autism

We can now add, as our reader Lisa discovered by chance,

·        Treating chronic sinusitis

Patients with severe chronic rhinosinusitis show improvement with Verapamil treatment


"Recently, we became aware that some of the inflammation in chronic rhinosinusitis (CRS) with nasal polyps is generated by the nasal lining itself, when a particular protein pump (P-glycoprotein) is overexpressed and leads to the hyper-secretion of inflammatory cytokines," said senior author Benjamin S. Bleier, M.D., a sinus surgeon at Mass. Eye and Ear and an assistant professor of otolaryngology at Harvard Medical School. "Verapamil is a first-generation inhibitor that is well-established in blocking P-glycoprotein. In some patients with CRS with nasal polyps, we saw dramatic improvement in their symptom scores."

Roche ditching experimental autism drugs

Basmisanil which targets the alpha 5 sub-unit of GABAA receptors was originally being developed to improve cognition in Down Syndrome; those clinical trials failed. Now Roche have pulled the plug on the trials to improve cognition in Schizophrenia.
Balovaptan was Roche’s expensive bet on Vasopressin to treat autism, covered in earlier posts; it blocks the activity of the V1a vasopressin receptor.  The Balovaptan phase 3 clinical trials have also been cancelled.



Stanford still pursuing Vasopressin for autism

Stanford’s bet on Vasopressin for autism is still ongoing.  They had the much simpler idea of just putting some pharmaceutical-grade vasopressin in a nasal spray and trialling that.

Intranasal delivery of drugs to target the brain appeals to me, as do eye drops.  Your eyes are part of the central nervous system, in the case of your nose it appears that drugs are transported directly to the brain from the nasal cavity along the olfactory and trigeminal nerves. 

Mechanism of intranasal drug delivery directly to the brain


One feature of this blog is a belief that central hormonal dysfunction is a core feature of much autism.  The big problem is that you cannot easily measure hormone levels in the central nervous system (CNS) and you may get quite contradictory results measuring hormone levels in blood samples.

Plasma oxytocin and vasopressin do not predict neuropeptide concentrations in human cerebrospinal fluid.


I was encouraged to see that the Stanford vasopressin researchers measured vasopressin in samples from spinal fluid.  They found that children who went on to be diagnosed with autism has very low levels of vasopressin in their brains early in life. Making it a potential biomarker.


Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is a brain disorder characterized by social impairments. ASD is currently diagnosed on the basis of behavioral criteria because no robust biomarkers have been identified. However, we recently found that cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) concentration of the “social” neuropeptide arginine vasopressin (AVP) is significantly lower in pediatric ASD cases vs. controls. As an initial step in establishing the direction of causation for this association, we capitalized upon a rare biomaterials collection of newborn CSF samples to conduct a quasi-prospective test of whether this association held before the developmental period when ASD first manifests. CSF samples had been collected in the course of medical care of 0- to 3-mo-old febrile infants (n = 913) and subsequently archived at −70 °C. We identified a subset of CSF samples from individuals later diagnosed with ASD, matched them 1:2 with appropriate controls (n = 33 total), and quantified their AVP and oxytocin (OXT) concentrations. Neonatal CSF AVP concentrations were significantly lower among ASD cases than controls and individually predicted case status, with highest precision when cases with comorbid attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder were removed from the analysis. The associations were specific to AVP, as ASD cases and controls did not differ in neonatal CSF concentrations of the structurally related neuropeptide, OXT. These preliminary findings suggest that a neurochemical marker of ASD may be present very early in life, and if replicated in a larger, prospective study, this approach could transform how ASD is detected, both in behaviorally symptomatic children, and in infants at risk for developing it.
  
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Cerebrospinal fluid levels of a hormone called vasopressin were lower in babies who went on to develop autism than in those who did not, a study found. 

Cerebrospinal Fluid Vasopressin and Symptom Severity in Children with Autism

 








Cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) arginine vasopressin (AVP) concentration differs between children with and without autism (AUT), predicts AUT diagnosis, and predicts symptom severity. (A) CSF AVP concentration is lower in children with AUT (n = 36) compared to control children (n = 36), whereas (B) CSF oxytocin (OXT) concentration does not differ between groups. 
(C) The effect of CSF AVP concentration on predicted (line) and observed (symbols) group is plotted, corrected for the other variables in the analysis. Children with AUT plotted above, and control children plotted beneath, the dashed line (which represents 50% probability) are correctly classified. Specifically, across the range of observed CSF AVP concentrations, the likelihood of AUT increased over 1,000-fold, corresponding to nearly a 500-fold increase in risk with each 10-fold decrease in CSF AVP concentration (range odds ratio = 1,080, unit odds ratio = 494, β1 ± SE = −6.202 ± 1.898). (D) CSF AVP concentration predicts Autism Diagnostic Observation Schedule (ADOS)–Calibrated Severity Score (CSS) in male but not in female children with AUT.

I think many hormones are likely disturbed in autism and that modifying them is one potential method of treating autism.

At Stanford they have already had success by squirting vasopressin up kids’ noses:-



In a Stanford study of 30 children with autism, intranasal vasopressin improved social skills more than a placebo, suggesting that the hormone may treat core features of the disorder.



A RANDOMIZED CONTROLLED TRIAL OF INTRANASAL VASOPRESSIN TREATMENT FOR SOCIAL DEFICITS IN CHILDREN WITH AUTISM

Stanford University, Department of Comparative Medicine, Stanford Background: Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by social impairments and restricted, repetitive behaviors. Despite ASD’s prevalence, there are currently no medications that effectively treat its core features. Accumulating preclinical research suggests that arginine vasopressin (AVP), a neuropeptide involved in mammalian social functioning, may be a possible treatment for ASD. Objective: The goal of this investigation is to examine the safety and efficacy of AVP in the treatment of social deficits in children with ASD. Material and Methods: Using a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled, parallel design, we tested the efficacy and tolerability of 4-week intranasal AVP treatment in a sample of N=30 children with ASD aged 6-12 years. Results: AVP compared to Placebo treatment significantly enhanced social abilities in children with ASD as measured by change from baseline in the trial’s primary outcome measure, the Social Responsiveness Scale (a parent-report measure). AVP-related social improvements were likewise evident on clinician impression and child performance-based measures. AVP treatment also diminished anxiety symptoms and some restricted/repetitive behaviors. An endogenous blood AVP concentration by treatment group interaction was also observed, such that participants with the highest pre-treatment blood AVP concentrations benefitted the most from AVP (but not Placebo) treatment. AVP was well tolerated with minimal side-effects. No AVP-treated participant dropped out of the trial, and there were no differences in adverse event rates reported between the AVP and Placebo groups. Finally, no significant changes from baseline were observed in electrocardiogram, vital signs, height and weight, or clinical chemistry measurements after 4-week AVP treatment. Conclusions: These findings suggest that intranasally administered AVP is a well-tolerated and promising medication for the treatment of social impairments in children with ASD.

Using a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled, parallel clinical trial design, we found that the 4-week intranasal AVP treatment enhanced social abilities in children with ASD as assessed by the trial’s primary outcome measure, the SRS-2 T score. The robustness of this parent-reported social improvement score was corroborated by convergent evidence from clinician evaluation of the social communication abilities of trial participants and by performance of trial participants on laboratory tests of social cognition. These preliminary findings suggest that intranasally administered AVP may be a promising medication for treatment of core social impairments in children with ASD.


We also sought to investigate whether pretreatment neuropeptide concentrations in blood could predict AVP treatment response. We found that participants with the highest pretreatment AVP concentrations in blood benefitted the most from intranasal AVP treatment. This finding may seem counterintuitive, particularly in light of our recent studies showing that low AVP concentrations in CSF could be used to differentiate ASD cases from non-ASD control individuals (1314). One might therefore expect that it would be those children with the lowest endogenous AVP concentrations that stood to benefit the most from intranasal AVP treatment. However, being mindful of safety in this pediatric population, our pilot study used a conservative dose escalation regimen in which children were treated with fairly low doses of AVP throughout much of the trial. Assuming that blood AVP concentrations are related, in some manner, to brain AVP activity—a notion about which there is debate (142225)—it is possible that participants with lower endogenous AVP concentrations at the trial’s outset were “underdosed” in terms of drug amount or duration of treatment and, therefore, would not benefit as fully from AVP administration as those with higher endogenous AVP concentrations. This interpretation is consistent with our finding that AVP treatment enhanced simple social perceptual abilities independent of pretreatment AVP concentrations in blood, whereas it was only those AVP-treated individuals with higher pretreatment blood AVP concentrations who showed gains in complex social behaviors and a reduction in repetitive behaviors.

Pharmacological intervention

Commercially available injectable sterile AVP was used in this study. It was initially purchased from JHP Pharmaceuticals (Rochester, MI), which was subsequently acquired by Par Sterile Products (Chestnut Ridge, NY) in 2014. The placebo solution was prepared by Koshland Pharm (San Francisco, CA) and consisted of ingredients used in the active solution except for the AVP compound. A pharmacist transferred 25 ml of AVP (20 International Units (IU)/ml) or placebo solutions into standard sterile amber glass bottles with metered (0.1 ml per puff) nasal spray applicators to ensure that the AVP and placebo applicators were visually indistinguishable to the research team. These applicators were coded and given to the Stanford Health Care’s Investigational Drug Service for refrigerated storage (2°C to 8°C) and subsequent dispensing. After the first AVP dose (see below), the dose-escalation regimen at home for all participants involved administration of 4 IU twice daily (or BID) of AVP during week 1 and 8 IU BID of AVP during week 2. Participants aged 6 to 9.5 years then received 12 IU BID of AVP during weeks 3 and 4, whereas participants aged 9.6 to 12.9 years received 16 IU BID of AVP during weeks 3 and 4. A range of possible AVP doses was identified by review of the published literature; the final study doses were then determined in close consultation with the FDA.


A few years ago I did write about the hormone TRH as a potential means of improving autism.  TRH can also be squirted up your nose, although I favoured an oral TRH super-agonist called Taltirelin/Ceredist.

I also suggested that DHED, an orally active, centrally selective prodrug of estradiol, could well be a therapeutic in autism. DHED should give all the benefits of the female hormone estradiol, without any side-effects outside the CNS.  Many of the benefits are via ROR alpha.

Without having samples of spinal fluid, identifying, let alone treating, central hormonal dysfunction is rather a matter of guesswork.

Hormones are very much interrelated and perform different functions in different parts of the body, so it would be easy to get unwanted effects, as with estradiol, if taken orally.
  
Bumetanide for TSC (Tuberous Sclerosis Complex)

A small trial in children with TSC (Tuberous sclerosis complex) has shown that bumetanide improved their features of autism (social behavior, irritability and hyperactivity) but did not reduce seizures.


Conclusion

This pilot study indicates the potential efficacy of bumetanide on behavioral problems in young patients with TSC. Bumetanide improved irritable, explosive, and social behavior in the majority of patients in this sample and treatment was well tolerated.


Folinic Acid for Autism, but at a lower dose than Dr Frye

I did recently complete my trial of generic Calcium Folinate at something like Dr Frye’s Leucovorin dose.

I found that it did indeed have a positive effect on the use of expressive language.  It prompted the use of more complex sentences.

The downside was that it did also cause aggressive/violent outbursts, so I put it in my “rejected” pile of therapies.  

I was interested to see that in France a trial has been carried out using a lower dose than that proposed by Dr Frye.  Is it possible to get benefits without the side effects? 

Folinic acid improves the score of Autism in the EFFET placebo-controlled randomized trial  


Highlights 

Folinic acid treatment is well tolerated in children with Autism spectrum disorders.
Folinic acid treatment shows improvement in Autism Diagnostic Observation Schedule score.
Effect of 10 mg/d folinic acid should be confirmed by a larger a multi-center trial.
Autism spectrum disorders (ASD) are influenced by interacting maternal and environmental risk factors. High-dose folinic acid has shown improvement in verbal communication in ASD children. The EFFET randomized placebo-controlled trial (NCT02551380) aimed to evaluate the efficacy of folinic acid (FOLINORAL®) at a lower dose of 5 mg twice daily.
Nineteen children were included in the EFFET trial. The primary efficacy outcome was improvement of Autism Diagnostic Observation Schedule (ADOS) score. The secondary outcomes were the improvement in ADOS sub scores communication, social interactions, Social Responsiveness Score (SRS) and treatment safety.
The global ADOS score and social interaction and communication sub scores were significantly improved at week 12 compared to baseline in the folinic acid group (P = 0.003, P = 0.004 and P = 0.022, respectively), but not in the placebo group (P = 0.574, P = 0.780, P = 0.269, respectively). We observed a greater change of ADOS global score (−2.78 vs. −0.4 points) and (−1.78 vs. 0.20 points) in the folinic acid group, compared to the placebo group. No serious adverse events were observed.
This pilot study showed significant efficacy of folinic acid with an oral formulation that is readily available. It opens a perspective of therapeutic intervention with folinic acid but needs to be confirmed by a multi-center trial on a larger number of children.
  

Covid-19

There was concern that people with severe autism might be at increased risk during the current pandemic and indeed the death rate among people with intellectual disability/learning disability/mental retardation did double from 240 a month to 480 a month in the UK.  The real scandal though was deaths in care homes for the elderly, in countries with advanced healthcare systems, where tens of thousands of extra deaths have occurred.

In “advanced” healthcare systems like the UK, early in the epidemic, elderly people caught Covid-19 in hospital and when they returned to their care home, they infected others.  Care workers who are allowed/forced to work in multiple care homes then caught the virus in one home and transmitted it to the others.  Nobody was tested until care homes had already become breeding grounds for the virus.

In Hong Kong they report zero covid-19 deaths in care homes.  Elderly people could not return to their care home from hospital without testing negative for the virus, and procedures were in place to release elderly patients from hospital first to repurposed hotels, where they stayed until negative for the virus. Due to their grim experience with the 2003 SARS epidemic, Hong Kong already had very strict measures in place to limit infections and they even had regular rehearsals in care homes of the procedures to implement in future pandemics.

Where we live there was an outbreak in a care home and the authorities’ reaction was to arrest the boss of the care home.  I suppose that is one way to get other care homes to take matters seriously. We even had soldiers posted outside care homes to stop people entering.  In New York, Cuomo’s threat to care homes was that you might eventually lose your license to operate if you flout the rules. If most care homes are flouting the rules, they cannot all lose their licenses.

Some rich Western countries apparently implemented their much-vaunted flu pandemic procedures.  It looks like they have much to learn from other places, from Hong Kong to Greece, who did very much better.  Greece implemented a draconian lock down, very early, and has had a tiny number of cases and just 166 deaths. When Greece re-opens in July to tourists from high risk countries (UK, France, Italy, Spain etc) we will see what happens.

I do wonder why so many people are living in care homes. In Sweden, I saw on TV, one lady complaining that her fit and healthy father, capable of walking a few miles/km had caught covid-19 in his care home, was refused transfer to hospital and later died.  Why was he sent to live a care home in the first place?

Milan has an old care home called Pio Albergio Trivulzia ("Baggina"), it had over a thousand residents and media reports 200+ covid deaths.

There are horrific cases in the UK of young adults being sent to live in small mental hospitals by their parents; they subsequently deteriorate and some have even died.  Why did the parents hand their children over in the first place?  They thought they could not cope at home, but clearly some dedicated institutions have even less capacity to care. 


Conclusion

Re-purposing existing cheap drugs to treat a different medical condition makes a lot of sense, but it is not going to make the inventor or the drug firm much money.  It is not popular with drug producers.

Developing new drugs to treat any neurological condition looks great in the early stages of research and then they all seem to fade way, wasting many tens of millions of dollars.  Don’t raise your hopes.

Is intranasal vasopressin the smartest hormone to choose to modify?  It is possible today, using existing products and appears to be safe, which are the most important issues. I think there is more potential beyond this single hormone.

Treat autism and intellectual disability/mental retardation medically, so those people can live more normally, be more fulfilled and do not later need such expensive care home provision. It is a win-win strategy.









42 comments:

  1. The "care" home issue is a sad and inevitable consequence of modern western culture. In eastern Asia, taking care of your parents at the expense of your own needs (job, career, etc.) is still seen as a noble pursuit. Not so much in the west anymore where caring for elderly parents is seen as a sign of low-class living. Just like with adults with autism, it is easier to pretend these people do not exist by keeping them in facilities where they are out of sight and out of mind.

    In fact, the idea of a "retirement community" is a relatively new idea in western culture for segregating the elderly from the general population, depriving the children and grandchildren of these people the intergenerational knowledge you get from learning how to keep society together, while also giving young people the opportunity to empathize and deal with dying relatives in a grown up way. Younger couples are so befuddled by the expectations of being a father or mother because they have to reinvent the wheel when it comes to parenthood because the intergenerational wisdom of their elders has been lost. No wonder parents are so stressed and few young adults are starting families anymore as the United States birth rate hit its lowest rate ever last year and that was before COVID-19. I shudder to guess what a childless culture over the next 10 years will be like. Perhaps, like in the movie "Children of Men" where humanity has lost all hope because children are no longer being born and the human race is going extinct.

    Also, the current maddening COVID-19 policies in the United States have situations where people in "care" homes are deprived of visiting their relatives for months at a time. That is like being in a prison with nobody ever checking up on you which is a recipe for abuse and even murder as nobody is going to bother investigating a death in a nursing home when you can just blame COVID-19 for someone being smothered under a pillow. Many of these people do not have families and those that do have no ability to make sure their relatives are OK.

    It is very strange to see the issues of abuse, neglect, and even murder facing adults with autism in these "care" homes now being brought to light by COVID-19 with respect to the elderly and how many of them are being treated very poorly when nobody is watching. Maybe this will make people think harder about what low-functioning adults with autism have to deal with in similar environments all of the time.

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  2. Do many people stay on bumetanide indefinitely?

    Or do they wean off of it?

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    1. If you stop using bumetanide you will lose the benefit.

      My son has taken it since 2012. If he stops he regresses after a few days. When restarting he gradually goes back to his new self.

      A substantial number of people are not responders, or the effect is too weak to show a benefit.

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  3. hi .. i have question regarding Atorvastatin. I tried 10mg of Lipitor for my 7 years old daughter for 2 days , her hyperactivity increased ++. She is always on the go , not calm.
    I reduced the dosage, still same hyperactive, cannot sit still, her verbal stimming increased . Should I push through or is it wise for me to call it off..
    How long does it take to see a response in a child?

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    1. I would stop Atorvastatin and assume your daughter is not a responder. The fact that she responds negatively, rather than not at all, is relevant.

      Autism includes complete opposite biological dysfunctions, in this case your daughter is the opposite of my son.

      My son was never hyperactive, in fact one of my interventions (Agmatine) is to make him more active.

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  4. What's your opinion on sarcosine?

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    1. Modulation of the NMDA receptor glycine binding site has been proposed as a treatment for schizophrenia, depression, and autism. The choices include Sarcosine, DMG and D-cycloserine.

      There is logic in making a trial of the 3 above.

      A small 2014 trial in Taiwan of Sarcosine reported:-

      “Our pilot trial revealed that sarcosine seemed to have activating effect as observed by the parents and clinicians. The activating effects made child B less passive, child C less detached in social interaction and child D more alert with improving mental performance speed. Nevertheless the activating effect could not be translated into improvement by statistical analysis of all the psychometric measurements we applied”

      https://www.longdom.org/open-access/a-pilot-openlabel-trial-of-use-of-the-glycine-transporter-i-inhibitor-sarcosine-in-highfunctioning-children-with-autistic-disorder-2161-1025.1000127.pdf

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    2. I think the drawback with sarcosine is that it has to be given so frequently that it gets unpractical. Are we talking about treating low NMDA function here? In that case, the cutting edge looks like keto supplements. Other ideas are Bimuno and Bacopa.

      /Ling

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  5. To me as a parent of 3 with TSC, I cannot stand to see one more drug being developed when we are only at the beginning of understanding of cannabinoid medicine and Endocannabinoid deficiency syndrome that those with TSC are born with yet gets exacerbated the minute pharma is added and sets these individuals up for a game of life long whack-a-mole with pharmaceuticals. Why not study marker for ECS deficiency at diangosis and supplement with cannabinoids? Why must we live this pharma nightmare? We've lived it. Over and over and cannabis is the best hope. Endocannabinoid system...MAJOR physiologic system not included in traditional medicine and yet utilizing phytocannabinoids has slowed and stopped tumor growth for many, offered relief from seizures AND mental health aspects all in one whole plant tincture. I am tired of being told to wait for safe pharma formulations of cannabis while my offspring suffer and will continue to suffer from this condition with polypharmacy issues and additional development of other side conditions that get newly diagnosed and medicated. This is the way it goes. So to me, any pharma, any new med without acknowledging the efficacy of whole plant cannabinoid medicine is just depressing, distressing and futile. We live it. Do better. It's embarrassing to our entire understanding of medicine that the endocannabinoid system is not included.

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    1. Bumetanide was approved by the FDA almost 40 years ago. It has been studied in various types of autism for 10 years, TSC is just the latest. Bumetanide is a cheap safe generic drug; my son has been taking it for nearly 8 years.

      Time for TSC Action! I think.

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  6. Hello.
    Great blog!!!
    I just received an email from Supersprout re broccoli powder subscription I have. They are unfortunately closing orders from June 16th.
    "Given the very soft retail environment Australia is currently experiencing, overlaid with the effects of Covid-19 our food manufacturing business is very sadly no longer viable. Therefore between now and the 30th June the business will be winding down ready for complete closure."

    Any other recommendations? Shipping to the UK.
    All the best to you and your family.

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    1. The easy one to buy is Broccomax.

      Two products used in clinical trials are Avmacol (US) and Prostaphane (France). A UK product called Sulforadex is entering an clinical trial for autism, but you cannot buy it.

      Prostaphane is only sold in France, but I see some French pharmacies ship to the UK.

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  7. Verapamil is the most versatile medicine I have ever used, my son seems to be responding well to it and his GI problems are much better, and it's helping me with more than one health issue at once which I think is great.

    I am new to the subject of repurposed drugs, but with my sons autism diagnosis and now a pandemic I've had to start reading. I had the chance to buy Ivermectin and Ciclesonide over the counter, which may be of some help just in case my family can't receive adequate attention if they get ill. I didn't find Hydroxychloroquine.

    I live in North Mexico and there have been about three care homes where there have been several deaths due to covid, but a few days ago there was a number of covid infections in the State University Hospital and I think it's going to get bad. People that are not in the healthcare system come from all Mexico to this hospital because it's low cost and it offers free attention with a plan from the government, it's overcrowded and there are many people that even sleep and eat there for days when they're taking care of a family member, a woman with covid and no symptoms went to visit a patient and that's how they said it started. In Mexico City it's getting worse day by day, and you can't fully rely on the National News, I heard of a man in a hospital that was feeling so bad that he tried to jump from the roof of the hospital and the police stopped him, but a few hours later he died from covid.

    I think this pandemic is also making us show our true selves, people have attacked nurses and mistreated doctors because they're afraid of infection, the US is putting pressure on Mexico to reopen factories, and I've seen so much greed and discrimination. Of course there are people that do good things, but I guess I'm more surprised of by the bad things and disappointed. I still haven't lost hope that in summer there will be less infections, but I think that for Mexico the worst is yet to come.

    Bumetanide is available again in pharmacies, I had the chance to buy some boxes, websites haven't updated their inventory but i think they will soon.

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  8. Hi Peter,

    Firstly I’d like to say Summer Rage is very real, at least for us, this time last year my daughter had a lot of sleepless nights but this year has been extra crazy. I asked our neurologist about it and he said yes summer rage is a thing, not just for ASD kids but also neuro typical kids to a degree and that no one is sure why. I know you have put it down to pollen allergies but my daughter has none (maybe it has an effect anyway).

    Anyway I digress, said neurologist has put our daughter on Risperdal. Which has been so far magical, better sleep, better mood, better cognition but we are told this can only be a temporary solution as there are too many serious side effects long term. Do you know of anything with a similar mode of action that is safer to use long term?

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    1. Kei, Risperdal is like several pills in one. As well as the effects on serotonin, dopamine and adrenergic receptors it is even an H1 antihistamine and a DAO inhibitor.

      The only things with similar modes of action are other antipsychotic drugs. They all have risky side effects.

      When my son's summer raging started, he had no visible allergies.

      If the raging is limited to only part of the year, there has to be a reason. In my son's case a visit to the mountains or seaside made the raging vanish.

      I would make a brief trial of Verapamil. When beneficial, the effect is near immediate.

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  9. Hi Peter,
    Thanks for another informative article. I am forwarding a link to it for a friend whose daughter has TSC.

    I continue to do well on Verapamil (combined with Amlodipine)---it has definitely helped with high pollen counts this past spring.

    I have started a trial of Clemastine Fumarate. I am taking a tiny dose a couple of times a week. I take heart from what Dr. Kerlinsky said about not needing much/not giving up on it.

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  10. Hi Peter,
    Do you know if Agnieszka Wroczyńska is currently doing virtual consults for US patients? I'd really like to trial it with my son this summer as his allergies are worsening along with migraines. Any reply would be appreciated.
    Many thanks as always~
    MKate

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    1. MKate, just send her an email and ask.

      Her email address is in the how to use Bumetanide article she wrote.

      https://epiphanyasd.blogspot.com/2019/06/the-safe-use-of-bumetanide-in-children.html

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    2. will do, thanks :)

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  11. Hello Peter,
    do you think a hormone panel has any useful information? I am thinking quite a bit about the hormonal disbalances these days. Aged 7.5, my daughter is now very interested in juvenile masturbating. We don’t make a fuss about it, but it has reminded me about your previous posts on estradiol. Are there any news on that front, anything therapy wise that could help with these imbalances?

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    1. tpes, there is no harm in measuring the level of hormones in blood, but it is hormone levels in spinal fluid that affect the brain.

      In older girls, who have high levels of androgens/male hormones, spironolactone is an interesting therapy. It is used off-label for acne and PCOS. It is clear that a female with autism and a high level of male hormones, might improve with an androgen-lowering therapy. Spironolcatone is widely used for acne in females, but not in males.

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  12. In our ‘whinging with bumetanide’ series, we lowered bumetanide by about 20 percent and we have equal attention and 0 whinging. The zoloft apparently ‘fixed’ the issue to some extent and the dose was then too much. Will retrial the zoloft with even lower bumetanide.

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  13. Hello Peter, my son has allergy ( hay and birch). In the end of april he started to chew on his shirt and started spacing (zoning out) for short periods of time. I assume it is connected to allergy, as i havent seen him doing it before.
    I was giving 1/2 tablet of tavegil before sleep for about 4 days , and i saw a very small effect. You also mentioned Verapamil and i wonder what in your opinion would work better in similar situation like ours.
    should i perhaps continue giving Tavegil for another week or so, or would you suggest to stop and introduce Verapamil.
    Many thanks in advance for response

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    1. ella, Tavegil/Clemastine is used for hay fever, but is usually given twice a day. The problem with the morning dose is drowsiness, since it is a first generation antihistamine.

      Clemastine has potential autism benefits via improved myelination and calming of activated microglia. Clemastine is good to trial irrespective of any allergy. I would try Clemastine, at a low dosage, for at least 2 months to see if there is an autism benefit, rather than an allergy benefit.

      Allergy definitely can make autism worse. It is best to experiment with different allergy therapies. For us Ceterizine/Zyrtec works well as an oral non-sedating antihistamine and I also use Azelastine nasal spray, which is another antihistamine that is also a mast cell stabilizer.

      I would only try verapamil if you have worse behavioral symptoms, or you also have GI problems.

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    2. Hi Peter Peter rupatadine and clemastine are the same effect or not?

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    3. Diego, no they have different effects.

      Rupatadine is a mast cell stabilizer in addition to being an H1 antihistamine.

      Clemastine promotes myelination and stabilizes microglia in the brain in addition to being an H1 antihistamine.

      Both drugs may be helpful in someone with autism. It all depends what problems they face.

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  14. Hello. I am from Brazil. I have an autistic son with 6 years. Congratulations on the brilliant work. Not
    I found a better site on the topic than this one. Really wonderful. Both yours and those who comment here. Thank you very much for your contribution. I will start 1mg of bumetanide daily for my child, but I have a question and would like to get your help. I also intend to give vitamin D, plus Gaba supplement. I saw that bumetanide acts on Gaba brain. It is my confusion or bumetanide and Gama supplement are antagonistic for children, that is, one would cancel the effect of the other. And if, bumetanide, because it is a diuretic, it can be administered with vitamin D. Thank you, already for the answer.

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    1. Cleiton, in people who respond to bumetanide, GABA is working in reverse and so GABA is acting as excitatory. These people need less GABA not more.

      I would make a trial using just Bumetanide and a potassium supplement. Then you will know for sure whether your son is a Bumetanide responder.

      Later on you can add other interventions one by one and you will be able to see if each one has a positive effect.

      In theory GABA taken orally should not reach the brain, but some people dispute this. Picamilon, which combines niacin with GABA, does for sure cross the blood brain barrier.

      There is no reason not to take vitamin D in addition to bumetanide, once you have trialed bumetanide by itself. Some people respond positively to vitamin D, but some other respond negatively. This is why you need to trial therapies by adding them one at a time.

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  15. Discussed with our MAPS dr Rossignol use of vasopressin. He noted it conflicts with Bumex. Any thoughts on co-use?

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    1. Vasopressin is indeed an antidiuretic hormone, but if you look up which drugs have interactions there are 22 listed and bumetanide is not there.

      https://www.drugbank.ca/drugs/DB00067

      If you look up Bumetanide, there are 1,024 entries, but Vasopressin is not listed.

      https://www.drugbank.ca/drugs/DB00887

      Vasopressin binds to receptors in the kidney and promotes re-absorption of water back into the circulation.

      If you take vasopressin intranasally I wonder how much will reach your kidneys. If it did actually reduce the diuretic effect of bumetanide that would surely be a good thing. The diuretic effect of bumetanide is a side effect (via NKCC2 in your kidneys), the desired effect is taking place in the brain via NKCC1.

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  16. I found this site last night. Our 18 year old son, considered a 2e type - ADHD Inattentive and genius - with processing issues, etc. we’ve found all of this rather late because he performed well in school until he crashed junior/senior years in high school. This week we learned that he has severe inhalant and food allergies beyond what the allergist has categories for. Yet our son exhibits no typical outward allergy signs and symptoms. But it’s assumed his histamine kiss is very very significant and impacting his body systemically. He will now have an epi pen and steroid available and has been put on Gastrochrom, Xyzal and Singulair. I think this newfound allergy issue may indicates a more systemic or neuro diverse set of concerns we’ve previously been unaware of. He is basically allergic to all foods except beef, strawberries - he also stores too much iron. He is lethargic, Low energy compared to peers, often seems depressed, very introverted along with the spacey and inattentiveness - lack of initiative - lack of goals, etc. I’ve just made the histamine load and brain relationship. He seems on the spectrum although he can be sociable but it’s extremely taxing for him. You seem to be a wealth of knowledge on neuro diverse brains and bodies. We have ignored and been in the dark about our sons increasing allergy load and anti social isolation. I’d appreciate you pointing me in any direction - histamine research, hi research, mast cell research, medications, food allergy - doctors? I sense there’s a mountain in front of our son and we have no idea how to begin the clim upward. He’s leaving for college I’ll equipped at this point with even how to eat - as his body is carrying a heavy histamine load. Could his sensitive allergic body be a sign of a something else? Thank you.

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    1. Sonya, there is a great deal in this blog about mast cells and autism.

      Mast cells 27 posts

      https://epiphanyasd.blogspot.com/search/label/Mast%20cells

      The most prolific researcher is Prof Theoharides

      Prof Theoharides , Tufts University School of Medicine

      https://medicine.tufts.edu/faculty/theoharis-theoharides

      There are 12 posts in this blog, referring to him

      https://epiphanyasd.blogspot.com/search/label/Theoharides

      So you have plenty to read, if you are interested.

      You need to be aware that many food allergy tests are not at all reliable. If you have severe food allergy/intolerance there are going to be obvious consequences. Such people can see almost immediate relief from Gastrochrom (cromolyn sodium).

      There are people will mast cell disorders, who release too much histamine and other inflammatory substances. Some people are histamine intolerant because the lack an enzyme called DAO which is used to break down histamine contained in food.

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  17. HI Peter,

    Since Oct 2020, I have used different dosage of Folinic acid (in its liquid form, added to formula milk) for my 28-mo, 14-kg. I have stopped using the high dose (between 7000mcg to 10000mcg) after a 2-month use without any positive effects (language was very slow to no improvements). Besides, with even low dosage, my kid would demonstrate head-banging (against pillows when he is on bed) - a clear sensory seeking behaviour instead of SIB as he won't bang his heads against walls. When no supplement of liquid folinic acid is provided, he will not do it. It has been tested a few times.

    Just sharing my trial experience here. I guess it only works on CFD.

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    1. According to the research 25% of people with autism have no problem with folate crossing the blood brain barrier. It looks like your son is one of that 25%. He just got the side effects.

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  18. Hi Peter thanks for yuor replay in yuor old post i have read that maybe how is a bumetanide no responder like my son can try ketoforce.

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    1. Some people do respond well to Ketoforce. Some of these people were bumetanide responders and some were not. The disadvantage with ketoforce and other BHB products is the price, but it is worth making a trial.

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  19. Hi Peter,
    Is there any chance there is telepathy among autistic kids?
    I have seen it with my son.
    SD

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    1. SD, it has been claimed in the past that some children with autism have ESP (Extra Sensory Perception) as a savant skill. Bernie Rimland, founder of the Autism Society of America (ASA) and the Autism Research Institute (ARI), wrote about this.

      THE SAVANT SYNDROME AND EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION (1991)

      "The aim of this paper is to question the statements of D. A. Treffert (Treffert, 1988, 1989) that extrasensory perception (ESP) occurs in autistic savant children. The basis of Treffert's statements is to be found in B. Rimland's report,
      derived from files held by the Institute of Behavior Research in San Diego, on the special abilities of 119 autistic savant children (Rimland, 1978)

      At least two hypotheses can be suggested to explain why some parents attribute ESP to their children: (i) By and large the children are severely handicapped, and some parents will be motivated to magnify whatever skills they can discern in their offspring. Unwittingly, "often with disbelief" (Rimland & Fein, 1988, p. 481), they may construe the possibility of ESP as evidence for it. (ii) Some parents might believe that, outside of their special savant skills, their children are much more handicapped than they in fact are. Accordingly, some behaviours, whch would be explained naturalistically were they to occur in nonhandicapped children, could occur in their children only by means akin to the miraculous, i.e., by ESI?"


      I do think that people for whom verbal communication is not fully developed, may compensate and be more aware of non-verbal communication. For example, my son picks up almost too easily on anxiety/anger in others, which then upsets him.

      Also some people caring for people with autism becoming very bonded and communicate very effectively with few or no words. This might look like telepathy.

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    2. the case of Ilga Kirk ....https://www.massimopolidoro.com/misteri/il-caso-di-ilga-k-quando-il-cervello-simula-la-telepatia.html
      carla marta

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  20. Hello Peter,
    How can I get intranasal vasopressin? Because the only available form is Desmopressin and it is multiple times more anti-diuretic than vasopressin!

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    1. In the US people get Vasopressin nasal sprays from a compounding pharmacy. One reader wrote to me to tell me that the off-the-shelf Desmopressin was highly beneficial in his daughter. The research has always used Vasopressin, for no particular reason.

      Desmopressin is much longer acting than Vasopressin, but it does not have all of the effects of Vasopressin. If it works in your case, Desmopressin looks like a better therapy than Vasopressin.

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